Final Fantasy XI play thread

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:01 am

Dwindlehop wrote: When you're a caster and you get aggro, you run like a bitch while everyone else whomps or taunts and draws the hate off you.

Once tanks get good at aggro management (get taunts, other aggro building stuff like Paladin heals, etc.) it becomes very annoying when casters run around, because then the tanks have to run around too trying to chase the enemies to pull them off the casters.

quantus · Post by **quantus** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:16 am

VLSmooth wrote:btw, clicking new post for this thread sends me to the 2nd page. Does anyone else have this problem?

Yes, I have this problem too and have had it in the past as well.

VLSmooth · Post by **VLSmooth** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:48 am

Dwindlehop wrote:It happens when there's new posts while you're still logged in. It gets confused between the first new post when you last logged in and the new posts since you last read the thread.

Ah, I'm guessing it reads a cookie timestamp, which is only set on login.

VLSmooth · Post by **VLSmooth** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:55 am

Another quick question, world pass allows 5 uses, correct? How many are allowed to be in a party?

I'd hope six (one for the pass buyer, and five others that use it). I think I read about it somewhere, but I forgot the number and where I read it. Did I mention I'm lazy?

tasheren · Post by **tasheren** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:57 am

VLSmooth wrote:Another quick question, world pass allows 5 uses, correct? How many are allowed to be in a party?

I'd hope six (one for the pass buyer, and five others that use it). I think I read about it somewhere, but I forgot the number and where I read it. Did I mention I'm lazy?

Yup 6 in a party, and 3 parties in an alliance. Thus 1 buyer + 5 passers is logical.

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:02 am

In case you haven't read enough about FF XI:

http://members.cox.net/ff2trans/

Post by **Jonathan** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:23 am

Excellent. I basically don't need to play the game anymore.

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:23 am

Yes, just live vicariously through others!

Or I guess, play vicariously through others.

VLSmooth · Post by **VLSmooth** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:29 am

Interesting, I wonder if "Until Nanami lit me on fire" was literal though (can you effect other PCs like that?)

Now, it's time for more questions!

If someone goes on a quest, is the target guaranteed to be there, or is camping involved? In general, are there inherent bottlenecks like this for FFXI?

More importantly, what about monster stealing? I remember reading that they'll be at least three colors for monsters (not engaged, engaged, engaged and party asking/pleading for help). However, I don't remember reading anything about those said monsters being yours if you don't ask for help.

Also, are there ridiculous "must get entire guild together to get one item" evercrack scenarios in FF XI?

Post by **Jonathan** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:29 am

Alan wrote:Yes, just live vicariously through others!

Or I guess, play vicariously through others.

I am vicariously living vicariously through others.

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:34 am

It seems like high level items have some (fairly low) random chance of dropping. This is consistent with most MMORPGs to prevent rare items from becoming common. However I think quest items will always drop.

There are bosses that require an alliance (18 people) to beat. Not sure if any will require multiple alliances. In DAOC dragons and other "epic" bosses required up to 100 people to kill. Doesn't seem like there's anything like that in FF XI though.

EDIT: It also seems like AF (artifact) stuff always drops. This is also consistent with DAOC, where epic armor always drops. I never got my epic armor, because I got my spellcrafted armor (which is better) first. Heh.

VLSmooth · Post by **VLSmooth** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:35 am

Reading some more of Alan's link reveals that camping is part of the game... argh...

Well, so long as it's enjoyable without camping, it's all good.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:38 am

my advice to any mages: Be an onion head! you will be more and more frustrated with having worse stats and stuff in comparison, and who knows, maybe the little guy will grow on you!

I'll probably just be a tank. AC2 spoiled me with is no-xp penalty for death and high soloability so I'll be a warrior/monk. Deciding on an advanced job is too early! but a pet dragoon must be cool!

VLSmooth · Post by **VLSmooth** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:41 am

I'm a little bit concerned I didn't notice a single monk through all those screenshots... maybe I'm just unobservant...

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:42 am

Yeah onion-heads are the best mages. But from what I read Hume and Mithra are better for Red Mages because Red Mages occasionally perform other roles besides just magic.

Also, in case I ever decide to try a melee job, I'd like to have that option open.

After seeing tons of screenshots I don't think Tarus look ridiculously ridiculous. Just kind of ridiculous.

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:43 am

VLSmooth wrote:Reading some more of Alan's link reveals that camping is part of the game... argh...

Well, so long as it's enjoyable without camping, it's all good.

Camping is only for the people who must absolutely have the very best items period exclamation mark.

It's entirely possible to enjoy any MMORPG (except maybe EQ...don't know about that) without camping.

VLSmooth · Post by **VLSmooth** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:48 am

As for Tarutaru, I actually think they look cool. Although I'll admit they probably severely hamper melee advancement.

Post by **Jonathan** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:53 am

Yeah, one of the main reasons I want to be Hume is that I could decide, later on, to be almost anything, and I would work out pretty good.

VLSmooth · Post by **VLSmooth** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 9:45 am

VLSmooth wrote:Btw, managed to get 4761 on Benchmark 2 in high-res (quality?) mode without rebooting.

I'll try installing new drivers and rebooting when I get home to see if I can boost that any

Hmm, only ~4970 with the new drivers. A little bit of sound corruption also snuck in (skipping), which is bothering me. I'll run the benchmark again later to put fears to rest.

As for heat, my CPU went up to 42 degrees Celcius (strange, was 47 the first time, then again, the ambient was ~73 degrees fahrenheit, now it's ~66). Since my video card doesn't have a thermometer to my knowledge, I did a rough estimate by touching it. Luckily it's nice and cool, no doubt due to a 120 mm Panaflow blowing on it

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:10 pm

Heh Trick or Treating:

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?top ... replies=13