In case anyone else is going to be a tank

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:58 am

I dunno if anyone is going to be PLD since i think every other class becomes just dmg dealer, but one trick the japanese use to take out IT baddies is havethe tank "run" as soon as the baddy readies its weapon skill. THis works for all the AoEs that are player targeted (such as dancing weapons aoe stun, etc). This doesnt work on Goblin Bombs, but those can be sheild bashed while its being readied.

This is exactly the same as when you enable a weapon skill and the baddy moves away. you lose all your tp and dont do jack

VLSmooth · Post by **VLSmooth** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 6:41 am

I've done this successfully a few times myself (to the dismay of several WHM that said it was harder to target me). I'd like to add that once you see it being readied, continue to run until said weapon skill goes off. Backing off a little doesn't work most of the time, since ranges in this game are huge.

rotinoma · Post by **rotinoma** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 7:14 pm

yea, it works if there's a delay, which the AOE ones have. of course you can bash too.

tasheren · Post by **tasheren** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:51 pm

hmm, so what if the main tank is not the one being targeted? The AoE would still go off on another char I guess?

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 7:09 pm

yea, if the main tank loses aggro, then everyone gets fuxored. Though I hear with the new changes to backstab, tanks & thfs get fuxored

man, so long until i can make my own fish mithkabobbbsbsbbs

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:50 pm

heh also figured out that PLD's Sentinal and Shield bash generate about the same aggro as a provoke. Usually I can keep aggro even through curagas and divine sealed cures, esp with a THF, but sometimes I need to chain all 3 to pry aggro back hehe.

VLSmooth · Post by **VLSmooth** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:43 pm

Two more provoke tidbits:

It seems aggro definitely is a counter and not a rate, so it's good for the primary tank to always provoke every 30 seconds.
Learned a provoke trick:
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```
/p Provoking <t>
/ja "Provoke"
/wait 15
/p "Provoke in 15 seconds"
/wait 15
/echo "Provoke Ready"
```
This is great when there are two tanks, since the Provoke in 15 seconds tells them to provoke for a perfect overlap, and (provided both tanks deal/take about the same damage) ensures damage spreading.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:08 am

yes, i stopped having a /p message whenever i provoke since i spam tat stuff way too much.

tasheren · Post by **tasheren** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:48 am

But spamming makes your party members hate you more and want you killed sooner rather than later!

VLSmooth · Post by **VLSmooth** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:55 am

Eh? That's only 2 messages (3 if you count the /ja, so maybe I can get rid of one). That's considered spamming?!?

VLSmooth · Post by **VLSmooth** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:56 am

Regarding the:

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/p "Provoke in 15 seconds"

I actually notice a lot of Japanese players doing this, so I don't think they consider it spamming...

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:58 am

no, i mean when I know 30 seconds is almost, up I just mash ctrl-1 (my provoke macro) until i provoke. So only *I* see the echo spam heheh

VLSmooth · Post by **VLSmooth** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:00 am

Ah, I usually wait for my "Provoke is ready" macro, but if I did mash, I could always use another macro (one /p, and the other /echo).

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:02 am

Sometimes mine doesnt show up even with the /wait command so I just mash mash and mash some more

tasheren · Post by **tasheren** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:07 am

Mashing fun! Now you just need to get a gamepad and lvl up your mashing skillz!

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:16 am

actually i use a gamepad when questing, especially in windurst since it is so annoying

tasheren · Post by **tasheren** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:18 am

Windurst sucks! those taru civil engineers don't know how to build and layout roads in town...